Last night, after dinner, I told him once again that we needed to have this talk. The conversation (‘rant’ might be a better word, as I did not have much opportunity to make a contribution), lasted 10 minutes tops and the gist was something like this:
The reason for his behaviour is entirely due to the fact that I went ahead and got a kitten despite him saying on numerous occasions that he did not want one. His reasons for not wanting it are as follows:
· We are in financial difficulties and cannot afford another mouth to feed.
· Looking after a cat takes time, and there are too many jobs which need doing around the house to waste time on a cat (but not, apparently, on watching American football and motor racing).
· That our son should have been consulted before such a momentous step was taken (how does he know he wasn’t? Actually, I had mentioned it to him and he was happy with the idea.)
(Before somebody points out, ‘Aha, financial difficulties, that’s the REAL reason, please bear in mind that I am only quoting here, not saying that I believe any of this crap. However, apart from saying ‘you are a liar’, there is not a lot I can do in response.)
I asked why he hadn’t explained these reasons beforehand, instead of just saying ‘We’re not having another cat’ in response every time the subject was raised. Apparently he ‘didn’t know I was serious’ – what, not even after I went out and bought the litter tray???
I pointed out that I had offered to get rid of the kitten, but he replied that that ‘would not have been fair on the kitten’, and that our daughter would never stand for it – he was right there.
I asked what he meant when he said the relationship was ‘fixable’, and what his suggestions were for fixing it. He said he only said this because he didn’t want to go to Relate, and that he actually didn’t think it WAS fixable – something we agree on at last.
He then proceeded to say that he cannot afford to move out because of the cost of upkeep of this house. I then said that obviously we will have to sell the house, to which his response was, we cannot sell the house because it needs too much work doing on it.
This appears to be his trump card, as he then walked out of the room – end of conversation.
My next concern is that, prior to getting legal advice, we should speak to our son – face to face, not be phone or email. He is at uni about 100 miles away. I think we should go together to see him, this will be a first as in the year he has been there we have never visited him in term time, but it must be done. I don’t want to have to do it on my own. I think I might have to send hubby an email to suggest that we go together.
In the mean time, I have taken off my wedding ring.
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hi!
If u dont mind my dropping in ('coz i am a complete
stranger....).This is coming to u from a person living on the
other side of this planet
Well my suggestion is first demand equal rights,he can't have the attic to himself like that.Half of the attic time is yours and what's all this about tlc?Dont women
need it too? Which is the reason u got not 1 but 2 cats(the
lil one is rather sweet,give it my love and hugs)
Just ask him to go his way for a while and u go yours
That will bring back all the joy in life,believe me u just
want a change in life... just for 6 months or so..
signing off!My lazy hubby wont take the dog for a
walk...man this is the way of life,
hope u did'nt mind bye
| husbandorcat [Member] 2005-10-27 @ 13:40 |
No problem!!! And actually there are two rooms in the attic - the one I am sitting in at present is my study, with my books, computer, a pot of herbal tea, views over the countryside... the other has the TV and video, the laptop when hubby is here and son's computer when he is home from uni - reeks of testosterone, I'm happier where I am!
2005-10-27 @ 07:14
This is still not about that kitten no matter what he says. You don't end a marriage over a kitten and he just needs something to pin it on.
Oh, I love when they walk out of the room. So, he doesn't want to fix it, he can't sell the house so he's just going to sulk for the rest of your marriage? Yes, you need legal advice. He needs to know you are not going to be passive in this. It's bullying.
And if he's depressed or has problems then this isn't helping. He needs to sort out what's really going on in his head and what HE needs to be happy.
I'm sorry if I am over-emotional and opinionated over this but my dad is this sort of person and it presses all my buttons. I saw my mum walked into the ground for many years from this sort of behaviour. Which is why I don't let my husband get away with it.
| KandAmoist [Member] 2005-10-27 @ 15:46 |
gratuitous advice - short version
The house CAN be sold, just not for as much as you could get for it if it was fixed up.
The house hasn't been done because he wasn't committed to the partnership (or indeed that you both weren't)
Is you son your counsellor? This is your problem, not his. Tell him what youve decided to do, once you've decided. You are the two who've got to be adult about this
You are both working and therefore both are able to get a mortgage on a small place each - especially the fact you'll both have a reasonble deposit - so don't let housing hold you back, if its what you both NEED to do.
Good luck
| husbandorcat [Member] 2005-10-28 @ 13:20 |
Wrong on the mortgage front - I may not have given this impression, but I am NOT working - or only very limited part-time stuff. I have been drifting since my last contract ran out 2 years ago - trying to write a novel - getting involved with this or that - but I think you were spot on about the jealousy thing because I suspect he would love to be in that situation - he is counting down to retirement in 6 years time.
On the house, yes, i know we could sell it - it is not in at all bad shape - and as it is a very large family house (and the remaining mortgage is quite low) we would probably make a tidy sum.
I'd appreciate a male perspective on this actually (though I realise that sounds a bit sweeping!) My feeling is that the repsonse about not being able to sell the house is just him being bloody minded. I am planning to get someone in to look at the outstanding jobs and then get a valuation.
I don't see what he thinks he stands to gain by staying other than just to piss me off - or more likely, inertia has set in and he can't bring himself to follow this thing to its logical conclusion.
He is working from home today (as he usually does on Fridays) - we have been very civil to each other, discussing our plans for the weekend, next week, the shpoping list etc. Well, it's easier to be pleasant, but it did strike me this was all a bit weird - so i said directly: 'the situation hasn't changed has it, it still stands?' to which the answer was quite definite. This was a relief. So we are sleeping in separate rooms but still living in the same house. He also put off going to see our son. I will give him one more week on this one before I go on my own.
By the way, I don't plan to ask our son for advice, but he has no clue that any of this is happening, his sister is in the thick of it and knows everything, I think out of fairness we should tell him as soon as possible now the decision has been made.
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