My daughter was telling me yesterday about her boyfriend’s sister, who has just broken up with her partner. She had cheated on him, not once, but several times, apparently, and he had had enough.
‘I couldn’t believe it’ my daughter said, ‘It’s not like her at all, she’s such a nice person’.
A nice person. People who are unfaithful to their partners are not nice people. What about those who long for infidelity, but never quite succeed in achieving it? I think about the times I’ve though about confessing to her about my feelings. What would be her reaction? If I lost her love and respect, how would that feel?
It feels like an echo from thirty years ago: ‘What would my parents think?’ Am I still living my life according to what I think other people think I should do and be? Of course I am. It’s summed up in that sentence I carelessly typed a couple of minutes ago: ‘If I lost her love and respect, how would that feel?’ Put like that, it is too great a thing to risk.
And what about self-love and self-respect? I don’t feel myself to be a ‘nice’ person, and I never have. I have always had these feelings, even when I was her age, whatever relationship I was in, I always wanted something else, or someone else. I used to tell myself – even until very recently – that this was just because I’d never found ‘the Right One’, that I needed to find someone I could be faithful to painlessly, someone who would be everything to me and there wouldn’t have to be any kind of thought or struggle or wrestling with my conscience because he would just be there and that would be all I needed.
But why should that happen now, if it has never happened in thirty years? And if it isn’t going to happen, what does that mean? That I might as well just stay where I am, because even if I could find another relationship, it probably wouldn’t be any more satisfactory than this one? (Though I might at least get some sex, which could be a bonus – oh stop it woman, why do you have to bring it down to that level?)
Stay here, and be a Nice Person, in the eyes of the world, in the eyes of my children?
They are the only people in the world whom I truly love. But is love a trap? Is putting someone else’s feelings before your own, living for them, the truest way to find happiness, as I have read, or is it self-negation?
I remember another conversation, on another, apparently very different topic. Just after the Parish Council meeting where I tried and failed to resign, when I was told that they couldn’t manage without me. I was talking to another friend, who said: ‘Nobody is indispensable’. Am I indispensable to my husband? I assume I am, but how is he feeling? I make excuses – he’s under a lot of stress, he has all these worries at work, things will get better again when that settles down, - because I’m too scared to speak to him, to ask him how he’s feeling, and more importantly, to tell him how I’m feeling. And I think about all the huge and intimidating practicalities, about the house, and how would it feel to leave the house, and where would I go and what would I do and how would I feel about that, and it’s all too much and so I put aside my fantasies and carry on as though nothing is wrong.
As though I were a nice person.
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- 26 Jul. 2008 @ 06:57:39
I think women of our generation were brought up with this great imperative that you should always put other people's feelings before your own because that's what 'good' girls do. I'm not sure it was drummed into boys in quite the same way, or into later generations. Or maybe I'm generalising here and it's just the way I was brought up rather than some great cultural norm.
I can't bring myself to tell hubby I don't love him any more because I'm paralysed by the thought of how it would make him feel - even though he never gives me any indication that he feels anything at all, I still can't make myself face up to that responsibility.
I'd have an affair though. Like a shot. If only I could find someone to have one with. Maybe I'm just too naive to know where to look
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- 26 Jul. 2008 @ 10:58:51
Agree totally re upbringing. I was socialised to be nice to males and considerate of their feelings and empathise while being virginal. THEN we were supposed to be sexy, be able to perform like a whore, but still make him feel like centre of universe and protect his feelings.
As an ex-Catholic there was a whole other layer of being good stuff and while directed at both, it did seem somehow to be more about female behaviour... Not sure if boys ever felt they had to fight off temptation from girls and protect them from themselves!-
- 27 Jul. 2008 @ 07:35:28
Currently reading 'What's Bred in the Bone' by Robertson Davies, with (among other stuff), an account of a male Catholic-influenced upbringing in 1920s Canada - funnily enough, the emphasis seems to have been put on the boy protecting himself, not girls, now there's a surprise! Girls, of course, were supposed to be quite capable of protecting themselves, and if they weren't, they weren't worthy of protection anyway. Never thought about it like this before, but it all fits the pattern, doesn't it?
With me, though, it's not just male feelings I have to protect, it's anybody's, even total strangers, I feel guilty if I DO do what I want, and resentful if I don't, but it's such deep conditioning, I don't know how to escape it.
with Hubby, he has no friends, no relationships to speak of with anybody except me and the kids, not even his brother, and you know how great the one with me is
. I just can't imagine what would happen to him if I left him.
Our daughter said to me the other day she tried to give him a hug when I was away, because she was going on holiday and wouldn't see him for a week, and he didn't respond at all, just stood there.
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What is nice, I wonder... have you ever read Nick Hornby's 'How to be Good'? It addresses similar questions.
"'Listen, I'm not a bad person. I'm a doctor. One of the reasons I wanted to become a doctor was because I thought it would be a good - as in Good rather than exciting or well-paid or glamorous - thing to do … Anyway, I'm a good person, a doctor, and I'm lying in a hotel bed with a man I don't really know very well called Stephen, and I've just asked my husband for a divorce.'
According to her own complex moral calculations, Katie Carr has earned her affair. She's a doctor, after all, and doctors are decent people, and on top of that her husband David is the self-styled Angriest Man in Holloway. When David suddenly becomes good, however - properly, maddeningly, give-away-all-his-money good - Katie's sums no longer add up, and she is forced to ask herself some very hard questions …
Nick Hornby's brilliant third novel offers a painfully funny account of modern marriage and parenthood, and asks that most difficult of questions: what does it mean to be good?"